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Discussion in 'Discussioni Generali sulle Console' started by Stepet82, Feb 21, 2014.

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  1. Kassandro

    Kassandro GBU Giga Banned User

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    @nick69 cazzarola c'è il topic sui dati di vendita...
  2. nick69

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    ...e qua vi scannate....è piu divertente :asd:

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    Girano voci che Microsoft sia intenzionata a comprare l'ip.a quanto pare lunedi l'annuncio.

    TANTA ROBA!
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    Seba mi spieghi in privato come condividere i giochi in DD tra amici? È ufficiale il prezzo di 39.90€ del Gold 12 mesi che ho visto in giro nei nuovi box?
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    Se succede è giusto IMHO, non possono permettersi di fare un altra pessima figura. :)
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    Per quanto ami il Gaming classico ma se devo immaginare il futuro dei videogiochi immagino qualcosa di più immersivo, ormai con i Pad siamo arrivati, alla grafica fotorealistica quasi, tra 10 anni che margini di miglioramento ci saranno? Il kinect per il momento è una cagata condivido, ma perché manca il software.
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    Si infatti li sarà una guerra tra DX12 ottimizzata da MS per la sua Xbox e Mantle fatta da AMD....che è quella che ha creato la GPU di xbox


    Ad ogni modo le due API hanno obiettivi diversi...DX12 principalmente inserisce nuovi filtri e nuove opzioni grafiche, mentre mantle è stato creato da AMD per diminuire tantissimo il carico sulle GPU e ottenere prestazioni superiori
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    Da quello che ho letto in giro negli ultimi 4/5 anni MS ha lavorato alle DX12 per lavorare a basso livello più vicino al "metallo" in stile Mantle lo hanno anche detto nell'annunciarle...per quello ho detto che sarà una sfida.
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    Seba è tempo perso qui si contano pixel, tflops e pensano che la gddr5 sia non se che cosa se non una ddr3 maggiorata
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    Non considerando la grande latenza delle gddr5 e gli errori ecco perché nei pc si usa ancora ddr3 perché ancora non c'è memoria ram migliore e le gddr5 le usano solo le schede video dedicate ma se lo dice playstation è putenza pura
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    chiaro.Sony non ha rivali in questo campo. :asd:
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    siete incredibili :asd:
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    Prima si lodava la 360 perché aveva 512 MB di RAM unificata rispetto alla ps3 (256), e gpu un pochino migliore, adesso invece ddr3 sono la stessa cosa di ddr5 e i TeraFLOPS non dicono nulla....fatevi un bagno di umiltà....
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  19. Evil_Sephiroth

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    Vi sono alcuni punti sbagliati....la EDRAM è stata si messa per sopperire alla minore banda passante della DDR3, ma il problema è che la sua "velocità" è comunque inferiore alla GDDR5.

    Il risultato è aver creato un'architettura INUSUALE per X86 e quindi gli sviluppatori si trovano ad avere difficoltà (potremmo quasi dire che MS ha fatto l'errore di Sony con PS3 proponendo un'architettura troppo custom e che va a mettere i bastoni fra le ruote agli sviluppatori)

    Il passaggio a X86 è stato fatto proprio perchè gli sviluppatori third party (sfaticati) potessero avere vita facile sviluppando quasi come su PC se però dopo questa premessi cacci dentro una cosa mai vista su X86 ti autofreghi.....
    Anche perchè lavorare su hardware totalmente custom anche atipico è un conto, lavorare su x86 con delle features mai viste in quell'ambito è ben altra cosa....


    L'altro errore è che è vero che GDDR5 non è il massimo come RAM di sistema, ma questo è completamente vero se si pensa di usarla su un OS tradizionale come Windows o OSX, sulle dashboard che sono infinitamente più leggere e semplici la problematica è pressochè inesistente e il tutto va a vantaggio del gaming puro visto che GDDR5 è una memoria perfetta per essere usata da VGA e GPU.


    L'ultimo errore è invece un po' fatto apposta.....nell'articolo nelel divagazioni parlano di sommare la banda di DD3 a quella di EDRAM...il fatto è che sono memorie con velocità totalmente diverse quindi è poco sensato farle lavorare insieme visto che il flusso di lavoro si autoregolerebbe con quella più lenta (quindi molto più lento di ora)
    La EDRAM ha la sua ragion d'essere lavorare a parte rispetto alla DDR3 o nell'essere usata solo per certi calcoli, in modo da avere un minore uso di memoria......il punto è, come ho già detto, che hanno creato una cosa che con x86 non c'entra nulla......e gli sviluppatori third party facilmente continueranno a lavorare su PC e PS4 e XOne allo stesso modo.....

    per i first party invece il discorso è diverso, un po' come i first party ps3



    @thomas83 la differenza fra GDDR5 e DDR3 è enorme....non hanno nulla in comune basti pensare al calcolo distribuito che se fatto con CPU+DDR3 impiega molto tempo, mentre se dato in pasto a VGA e GDDR5 ha tempi incredibilmente inferiori...
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    Evil stai ancora a perdere tempo? :asd:
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