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[Official Topic] E3 2013 - Rumors, notizie, commenti -

Discussion in 'Discussioni Generali sulle Console' started by Kassandro, May 2, 2013.

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Fino ad ora quale delle due console ti ha colpito di più?

Poll closed Jun 10, 2013.
  1. PS4

    67.3%
  2. Xbox One

    12.7%
  3. Deluso da entrambe.

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  1. Fifù

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    Aumentano la RAM a 12 gigghi come prima cosa..:asd:
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    Puoi anche metterne 16, ma se ne usi 12 per far girare anche il sistema operativo della in macchina della caffè e del frigorifero in cloud computing o per farci cose che i videogiocatori ritengono inutili e te lo dicono da 3 anni, non serve a nulla.
  3. Kassandro

    Kassandro GBU Giga Banned User

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    Xbox One is just announced, while Microsoft admits they have lost the war against Sony PlayStation 4 in the most subtle way during their “reveal event” May 21, 2013.

    The Xbox One reveal event took place at Microsoft’s Redmond Campus, in case you missed the online livestream, you can watch it on demand here at the Xbox website.

    During their reveal event, Microsoft put the majority of their focus on making the Xbox One the hub of living room entertainment, rather than gaming itself, and spent a considerable time talking about the user experience. The whole idea behind Xbox One would be “Simple. Instant. Complete.” And before we dive into possible reasons behind this entertainment-centric strategy, let’s have a recap on the specifications of the Xbox One system in detail.

    CPU, GPU and memory subsystem

    First we look at the Xbox One SoC. The Xbox one SoC boasts a whopping 5 billion transistors on a monolithic die, the die contains several major important components; the first one being an 8-core Jaguar block with caches, the next being a GCN GPU block with 768 scalar shaders (that’s 12 Compute Units), several move units for direct memory access (DMA) to the GPU, several accelerator blocks including one for audio processing, dual-channel DDR3 memory controller for the whole SoC and a big chunk of 32 MB embedded SRAM (eSRAM) for the graphics block. The eSRAM also connects to the memory controller to get required data from the main memory and store in the relatively smaller eSRAM block, so the GPU can treat it as a very-fast last level cache.

    The reason for a large transistor count is reflected through one big block, yes, the big block of eSRAM. For a 32 MB eSRAM array, there is 268,435,456 bit cells, for a 6T (6 transistors per bit cell) configuration, it would translate to 1.61 billion transistors, while for a 8T configuration, that’s around 2.15 billion transistors.

    The Jaguar CPU cores use the AMD64 (64-bit) architecture, the CPU cores also have the ability to do hardware virtualization with nested page tables, which Microsoft said is crucial for enabling the Xbox One operating system stack. The exact GPU specification was not actually revealed during the event, but rather, hints were given by the game developers. There were some clearer hints from the Microsoft Engineers at the technical discussion session after the livestream event. So the GPU can do 768 operations in a single cycle, that means 768 scalar ALUs based off the GCN architecture. We will not point to whether it’s Southern Islands or Sea Islands shaders. Microsoft claims 4 times the calculations per second and 8 times the graphics performance over the Xbox 360 GPU.

    Going over to the memory subsystem, the Xbox One features 8 GB of RAM, and the large chunk of eSRAM mentioned a few paragraphs above. Microsoft is claiming over 200 GB/s bandwidth for the memory subsystem, it does seem to be inline (and even surpass) Sony PlayStation 4 on the memory subsystem front with eSRAM, but devil is in the details.

    Local storage, connectivity options

    The Xbox One will continue to have a large local storage, as the console will include a 500 GB, 2.5″ notebook form factor harddrive (SAMSUNG Spinpoint M8 ST500LM012, manufactured by Seagate), the specifications would be 5400 RPM and 8 MB Cache, the harddisk is connected using a SATA 3.0 Gbit/s interface. Attempting to catch up in the physical game media race, the Xbox One will equip a slot-in Blu-ray Disc drive, leveling the playing field with Wii U and PlayStation 4, and Xbox One can also play Blu-ray Moview, catching up with the PlayStation 3.

    As for the connectivity options, USB 3.0 ports will be on the Xbox One to charge the new controllers and allow access to USB flash memory. The Xbox One will continue to have support for 802.11a/b/g/n and WiFi Direct, an RJ-45 port is also present for wired Internet connections. On the display connectivity front, as the Xbox One shifts focus towards Live TV entertainment, there will be an HDMI 1.4a input alongside the HDMI 1.4a output. Microsoft said the HDMI 1.4a ports are able to transmit 4K video streams as well as 7.1 surround sound. Users can opt for S/PDIF connection to bypass 7.1 surround sound to the home audio amplifier.

    The die size of the SoC is between “huge” and “gigantic”, a whopping 5 billion transistor figure. Microsoft opts for multiple power states for the SoC to deal with a monster die sucking power. The SoC also features separate power planes for the CPU block, the GPU block, the northbridge and memory I/O, to further reduce the power consumption by allowing independent and dynamic frequency and voltage adjustment. A large heatsink fan is also used to cool down the big chip. Microsoft states the fan will go completely quiet even when going at full speed, to meet the requirements of a living room device.
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    Se mi traduci a spiccioli le parti salienti ti regalo ps4 al day one :asd:
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    Ma almeno recuperavano 3 giga di ram per SO
  6. boxaro95

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    Magari il problema fosse la RAM :asd:
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  7. RAMIREZ!doEverything!

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    IGN ha anche provato il nuovo Kinect e ne è rimasta entusiasta! fiuuuuuu

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  8. luis27409

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    Ma i boxisti dopo la pagliacciata di martedi si vergognano o succede solo a me?
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    Parrebbe di si,ma in fondo che colpa avete?mica avete scelto voi l'andazzo di MS,io ammetto che sono molto dubbioso sull'insieme delle nuove next-gen........
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  10. Stepet82

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    Basta non avere il prosciutto agli occhi: se ps4 si dimostra superiore si fa il cambio. Se anche lei delude si rimane dove si è adesso. Le alternative sono pc (che odio per via delle impostazioni, installazioni ecc.) e wiiu (a questo punto meglio la 360,almeno ha giochi e online).
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    Coin deve averla presa malissimo..:asd:

    Mi aspettavo post su post da quel boxaro:rotfl:
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    Certo, non lo cancellano, ma d'ora in poi lo GESTIRANNO LORO.....

    Non sto qui a quotare i vari post che avete scritto perchè dovrei quotarvi veramente tutti, ma ora come ora parlando di XONE sono stradeluso! come dice Kennuzz tutto ciò che dicono man mano che passa il tempo mette solo paura e (prendete il termine dal punto di vista videoludico) sconforto...........quando anni fa morivi di hype in questo periodo.
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  13. RAMIREZ!doEverything!

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    o_O come ha detto Seba tante sono solo paturnie...dopo l'E3 mi strappero' i capelli se necessario :rotfl:
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    ;) Il menù è servito !
  15. luis27409

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    Ah si.....fai presto tu........noi segari puntavamo tutto su MS......e ne avevamo ben donde all'inizio......Ci vorrebbe il Coin a tirarmi su il morale con qualche frase filosofica......
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    E' vero BRO, però dai non ci credo che nemmeno a te qualche campanello d'allarme non ha cominciato a suonare.......................io mi sto cagando addosso, e lo dico con la cacca a livello del cuore!

    Io, come il 99,9999999999999999999999999999999% dei possessori X360, fino al 2010 con quella macchina ho sognato, ho continuato in un certo senso anche dopo per carità, ma appoggiandomi per la maggir parte delle volte al periodo d'oro pre 2010.....da quell'anno sappiamo che di opere buone ne sono arrivate poche poche..........e quell'anno rappresenta la "svolta" in casa Redmond che oggi si concretizza con quello che stiamo vedendo e leggendo in questi giorni..
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  17. Stepet82

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    Guardando i prezzi dei giochi in digital delivery sul live attuali questo mi fa paura. Hanno visto che gs fa soldi con l'usato e hanno voluto prendersi quel mercato con la forza. Spero sempre in smentite, ma allo stato attuale questa sarà la causa maggiore di defezioni dall'xbox. Comunque sono straconvinto che sony ha ancora qualcosa da confessare a riguardo. Il fatto che ea ha tolto il codice, ma pubblica su entrambe le console mi fa riflettere...
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    Quoto, anche io penso che Sony farà lo stesso o quasi
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  19. luis27409

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    Ma a dir la verità io pensavo che avessero tirato i remi in barca per concentrare tutte le risorse sulla next gen........Ma porca troia se sponsorizzi l'NFL paghi cash profumati sull'unghia per avere qualche cazzata su COD allora è na presa per il culo......
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